[Eriond]

Hola!! tengo 21 años y es la priemra vez que eskribo! Tengo una pekeña duda debido a que el dermatologo que me atendio creo que pasa de todo pk no me miro nada y me dijo sisi usted tiene alopecia androgenica asi sin mirar nada xD y la verdad es asi a simple vista no se me nota! bueno el caso es que me dijo que probara minoxidil a ver que tal me iba y que despues de 6 meses fuera a verlo otra vez. quiero saber si echo minoxidil y el pelo resulta que esta sano, le pasa algo malo??

P.D:fui al dermatologo pk hace dos años me empezaron a salir entradas tampoco nada excesivo pero ultimamente vi que me klareaba un poko por la frente.

Otra duda saben de algun buen champu anticaspa? porque he oido que es mejor kitar caspa y grasa para empezar con minoxidil, y como hago pk tb uso uno para la grasa del pelo, que hago uso uno kada dia? los dos el mismo dia?

Gracias por atenderme!

Es un foro genial!! espero k siga asi!

[Manuel]

Hola Eriond! Bienvenido al Foro!

Si tu problema es en las entradas, tenés que colocar el Minoxidil únicamente en ese lugar. O sea, la idea es aplicar el producto en las zonas débiles o calvas, nada más.
Ahora, ¿qué sucede si lo echás en áreas sanas? Nada. No ocurre ningún problema ni acostumbramiento ni "se te va a caer todo el pelo". Nada de nada. Si no estás seguro, probá echar Minoxidil en la nuca o en el pelo que está arriba de las orejas (laterales) y verás como el Minoxidil no les hace nada. Si dejás de usarlo, no afecta. Si lo usás, tampoco.
Conclusión: el Minoxidil no afecta el pelo sano.

En cuanto a la caspa y la grasa, obviamente tenés que tratarlas más allá del Minoxidil. Mi sugerencia es usar un shampoo con Ketoconazol (Fungarest, Ketoisdin) dos veces por semana. Eso verdaderamente ayuda a la caspa, a la grasa y a la caída. Es mágico.

Te mando un abrazo!

[Eriond]

gracias manuel eres el mejor

[Eriond]

otra cosa manuel estyo leyendo el prospecto de Fungarest k kasualmente lo habia en mi kasa, pone Fungarest 2% Gel, no se si es este al k te refieres, pero pone ke la Dermatitis Seboreica y caspa estan a menudo asociadas con la caida del cabello; esto tambien puede ocurrir cuando usted esté usando Fungarest 2% gel para estas infecciones.
¿A que se refiere? ¿es este el champu que me has recomendado o es Fungarest pero de otor tipo?

Graciñas.

[Manuel]

Exactamente. Ese gel se usa igual que un champú.

El Ketoconazol está recomendado para la caspa, dematitis seborreica y otras afecciones del cuero cabelludo. Sin embargo, hace unos años se descubrió su efectividad para tratar la AGA. ¿Sabés Inglés? Mirá estos estudios...

It can reasonably be concluded that the clinical efficacy of ketoconazole shampoo in the treatment of AGA is primarily a function of DHT pathway disruption rather than an anti-inflammatory effect. In rat studies ketoconazole caused 5-R inhibition [28]. Furthermore, in humans ketoconazole has also been shown to inhibit the binding of 5-R to sex hormone globulins [29]. These clinical studies suggest that ketoconazole like finasteride may inhibit the production of DHT. Unlike finasteride ketoconazole has been shown to bind to human AR [30]. Thus, the effect of ketoconazole on the DHT pathway may be two-fold: inhibition of DHT and/or inhibition of DHT binding to AR. Either or both of these properties would result in reduced incidence of DHT binding to AR and inhibiting the pathway that leads to the miniaturizing of hair follicles.

March 04, 2001 - American Academy of Dermatology Meeting - Washington DC - Scientists working for McNeil, makers of Nizoral anti-dandruff shampoo, presented the findings of a study done on 1% Nizoral shampoo which has good news for hair loss sufferers. It has long been known that 2% prescription Nizoral has beneficial effects on Androgenic Alopecia (MPB). It however has been unclear whether the same benefits can be obtained by using the non-prescription 1% version.
In the study presented (see below), one hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, were using, in a double-blind fashion, either a 1% Nizoral shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo, 2-3 times a week for 6 months.
Analysis of the different parameters set up in the study shows that the hair diameter gradually increased with Nizoral use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter showed a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate was reduced with Nizoral (-6.54%) while it increased with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period was reduced by 16.46% with Nizoral and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time.

The results are similar to a previous study done on 2% prescription strength Nizoral where it was shown that use of 2% Nizoral yielded a 7% average increase in hair shaft diameter similar to what was achieved by the control group using 2% Minoxidil and a non-medicated shampoo.

So for any hair loss sufferer, this research clearly indicates that using 1% or 2% Nizoral 2-3 times per week, will have positive effects on hair growth as well as controlling dandruff. It is still unclear at this time whether it's the anti-fungal properties or the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole (active ingredient in Nizoral) thats responsible for the hair thickening effects, however because of the decrease in sebum rates as well, it is the authors opinion that the results are due to the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole.

California College of Podiatric Medicine, 371 Columbus Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94133, USA.

Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) binding to androgen receptors (AR) in hair follicles is commonly accepted as the first step leading to the miniaturizing of follicles associated with androgenetic alopecia (AGA). Testosterone is converted to DHT by the enzyme 5alpha-reductase. Finasateride a 5alpha-reducase inhibitor blocks the production of DHT and is currently used to treat AGA. The inhibition is not complete but a reduction of DHT systemically and in the scalp is accomplished. Ketoconazole has been clinically shown to be effective in the treatment of AGA. In this paper, evidence is presented to support the hypothesis that ketoconazole 2% shampoo has a local disruption of the DHT pathway. It is proposed that using ketoconazole 2% shampoo as an adjunct to finasteride treatment could lead to a more complete inhibition of DHT and thus better treat AGA.

PMID: 14729013 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

March 04, 2001 - American Academy of Dermatology Meeting - Washington DC - Scientists working for McNeil, makers of Nizoral anti-dandruff shampoo, presented the findings of a study done on 1% Nizoral shampoo which has good news for hair loss sufferers. It has long been known that 2% prescription Nizoral has beneficial effects on Androgenic Alopecia (MPB). It however has been unclear whether the same benefits can be obtained by using the non-prescription 1% version.
In the study presented (see below), one hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, were using, in a double-blind fashion, either a 1% Nizoral shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo, 2-3 times a week for 6 months.
Analysis of the different parameters set up in the study shows that the hair diameter gradually increased with Nizoral use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter showed a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate was reduced with Nizoral (-6.54%) while it increased with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period was reduced by 16.46% with Nizoral and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time.

The results are similar to a previous study done on 2% prescription strength Nizoral where it was shown that use of 2% Nizoral yielded a 7% average increase in hair shaft diameter similar to what was achieved by the control group using 2% Minoxidil and a non-medicated shampoo.

So for any hair loss sufferer, this research clearly indicates that using 1% or 2% Nizoral 2-3 times per week, will have positive effects on hair growth as well as controlling dandruff. It is still unclear at this time whether it's the anti-fungal properties or the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole (active ingredient in Nizoral) thats responsible for the hair thickening effects, however because of the decrease in sebum rates as well, it is the authors opinion that the results are due to the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole.

Un abrazo!

[Eriond]

gracias manuel!.

Una ultima cosa despues de echar el fungarest se puede echar otro champu?

[Manuel]

Es una cuestión de qué tan sensible sea tu cuero cabelludo. Yo no lo hago porque a mí el Ketoconazol me deja relativamente sensible el cuero cabello por un rato. No me gusta colocar otro shampoo que podría irritarme aún más.
De todos modos, no te puedo decir que sea malo ni que el Fungarest no vaya a funcionar. Para nada. Es simplemente una cuestión de no "pegarle" tanto a la piel.

Un abrazo!